Sunday, October 17, 2021

COVID Numbes Simply Don’t Add Up

 from Children's Health Defender

From the beginning of the series of events branded as a global health emergency, many people have smelled a rat.

Whether one looks at leaders’ willingness to engage in wanton economic destruction, or the rapidity with which billionaires have amassed new wealth or the multisectoral efforts to link and mine people’s intimate data, it is not hard to recognize that something much larger than a health crisis is afoot.

However, even if one restricts oneself to the narrow confines of the health narrative, 18 months of data — emerging in spite of ferocious censorship — have repeatedly illustrated that the official story is full of lies and omissions.

One of the biggest holes in the story is the trail of destruction that the experimental COVID vaccines are leaving in their wake, with hundreds of thousands of reported injuries in the U.S. alone and, according to some statisticians, as many as 150,000 dead Americans.

With this level of damage after just nine months, now is as good a time as any to reexamine “COVID math” and highlight some of the embedded falsehoods that cast serious doubt on official and corporate pronouncements about risks and benefits.

The false case for vaccinating kids

Pfizer’s CEO, veterinarian Albert Bourla, is currently drumming up buzz in anticipation of a likely decision by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) to green-light emergency use of his company’s COVID vaccine in children ages 5-11. To buttress his arguments, Bourla claims that pediatric COVID cases are on the rise.

However, setting aside the questionable PCR testing methodology being used to identify these “cases” (that is, until the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) retires the PCR test at the end of the year), recent studies show reported COVID-19 hospitalizations — “one of the primary metrics for tracking the severity of the coronavirus pandemic” — have been grossly inflated for children. In actuality, pediatric COVID hospitalization rates are “vanishingly small.”

One fact, especially, bears repeating: Through age 19, children and adolescents have a 99.9973% COVID-19 survival rate. This information, which has been a constant throughout the reported pandemic, is reiterated in the most recent analyses by Stanford physician, epidemiologist and statistician John Ioannidis, who has been a steadfast critic of COVID alarmism from the very beginning.

And Ioannidis’s good news does not stop with the 19-and-unders. Until people hit their seventies, all age groups have survival rates well over 99%:

  • 0-19: 99.9973%
  • 20-29: 99.986%
  • 30-39: 99.969%
  • 40-49: 99.918%
  • 50-59: 99.73%
  • 60-69: 99.41%
  • 70+: 97.6% (non-institutionalized)
  • 70+: 94.5% (institutionalized and non-institutionalized)

As Off-Guardian’s Kit Knightly wrote about another Ioannidis study this past spring, “With every new study, with every new paper, the ‘deadly’ pandemic gets less and less, well, deadly.”

At that time, Ioannidis ascertained that the global infection fatality rate was 95% lower than the one disseminated by the World Health Organization (WHO). ... Continue reading >>>

 

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The government's move has not been well received by Italian citizens.

Via AFP

First approved by Italian Prime Minister Mario Draghi's cabinet a month ago, it has now become mandatory on Oct.15., the policy has beeen pushed through by decree as Prime Minister Mario Draghi's government does not have a majority in the Italian national assembly

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As The Hill notes, anyone wishing to travel to Italy anytime soon will have to obtain the green pass by proving they are fully vaccinated, or providing a negative test.

The prime minister had earlier promoted the pass as a way to ensure no more lockdowns in already hard hit Italy, which has had an estimated 130,000 Covid-related deaths since the start of the pandemic.

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Mussolini Lives: Merging State and Corporate Power Is Not ‘Libertarian’

 Years ago I fell foul of Liberals by suggesting it is possible to be a liberal and a libertarian.
"You're a idiot," the libbies screeched (they always start screeching when faces with something that challenges their certainties,) "libertarians are far right nut jobs who want to abolish government so they can do as they like."

Apart from proving that in spite of their assumptions of intellectual superiority these people do not know the difference between liberalism, libertarianism and anarchy this only proved these intolerant people are not as liberal as they like to think they are.

In fact these liberals were not liberal at all, they support big government by the centralised state, high taxes and maximum intervention in the minutiae of individual lives. And they also believe in increased colaboration between the state and corporate business for the benefit of the rich and control of the working classes. Which is exactly the political philosophy proposed by Italian Fascist leader Benito Mussolini in the 1930s.

I could have written at length again on the same topic but somebody else already has.

Merging State and Corporate Power Is Not ‘Libertarian’

Friday, Oct 15, 2021 - 12:37

by Ben Bartee via The Daily Bell

“Fascism should more appropriately be called Corporatism because it is a merger of state and corporate power.”

-Benito Mussolini

Like a child with spaghetti, the US corporate state made a mess of libertarian ideology.

Other Western political cultures do not recognize the exceedingly awkward and cowardly simplistic US version of corporate libertarianism, which goes something like:

  • Public domain bad; private domain good
  • Competition bad; monopoly good
  • Government bad; corporations good

Unlike some ideologies, libertarianism need not necessarily deal in the black and white. As humans gifted with free thought and the capacity for reason, we should be also capable of nuance. Each of these propositions can be true in any given context:

  • The corporation can be an effective organizational structure for facilitating efficient economic relations between willing partners

AND/OR

  • Left unchecked, the corporate machine will merge with the state into a rent-seeking, anti-libertarian foe to human prosperity

… In short, the corporation, like fire, makes for a useful tool and a dangerous enemy.

The executives of any given corporation are tasked with maximizing profit above all. Public executives, in fact, have a legally enforceable fiduciary responsibility to maximize profit as their primary function. In and of itself, this is a morality-free imperative, neither inherently right or wrong; it is only the nature of the beast.

What does a corporate entity have to say of human liberty? Nothing – not now, not ever. Profiteering is the ethos, nothing more.

If maximal profits are to be made in a free society, so be it; if maximum fortune is to be mined from a sea of enslaved zombies, just as well – it’s all the same to the shareholders.

Given those machinations, what happens when the corporation becomes the state? When the profit-seeking imperative of corporate enterprise merges with the control-seeking imperative of government?

Here, in 2021, the interests of the state and corporations converge – so that it doesn’t matter which entity forces the adoption of “vaccine passports”:

“At least 17 [US] companies or nonprofits are developing websites or apps that might be used by sporting venues, restaurants and other businesses seeking to keep their customers and employees safe, according to… the executive director of the Health Innovation Alliance, a broad coalition of health providers, tech companies, employers and insurers.”

Ask yourself: if you can’t work, send your kids to school, fly on an airplane, cross borders, or even potentially shop at grocery stores without a “vaccine passport” (as CNN recently suggested), does it matter whether the state or a private corporation develops the app and runs the program?

The end result is the same: a dystopian hellscape void of any meaningful human freedom. ... Continue reading >>>

 

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Thursday, October 14, 2021

China's Threat To Taiwan Has World Sitting On A Nuclear Powder Keg That Could Blow Any Minute

 

Taiwan, the tiny, island nation off the south east coast of China is literally and an island of freedom, a prosperous rebuke to communist totalitarianism, in China’s own backyard. Officially Taiwan in The Republic Of China but dares not call itself that anymore for fear of pissing off the tyrannical communist regime of its giant neighbour, The People's Republic of China. Taiwan is liberal, technologically advanced, democratic and successful, it's prosperity for decades was a constant irritation the the communists of The People's Republic where most of the citizens existed in grinding poverty.

Furthermore the state of Taiwan was founded by the Chi ang Ki Shek  the nationalist leader who opposed the communists in the civil war of 1949 and the existence of the rival government, which claimed to be the legal government of China is a constant irritant to the Communists in Beijing. Taiwan’s government calls itself the “Republic of China” because they still consider themselves the legitimate rulers of the mainland, in exile.

China’s ideological and political hostility to Taiwan is in some ways similar to the hostility of the USA to the communist government of Cuba. Just as China has been attenmpting to bring down the democratic government of Taiwan for decades, so U.S. agencies and proxies have been engaged in trying to undermine communist rule in Cuba.

The only reason the U.S.A. distances itself from these attempts to destabilise Cuba is so that Washington could avoid being accused of behaving like an “imperialist” power. 

Communist China has no qualms about breaking international law or making overt military threats to conquer Taiwan. China has been constrained from doing so for decades only because of their insufficient military capabilities and fear of U.S. intervention. However U.S. military supremacy is no longe as certain has it has been since world War 2. In the past decade while U.S. leaders have been focused on packing the military leadership with 'woke' LGBTQ+ activists, Russia, China, Iran and North Korea have made enormous advances in military technology


U.S. Military and Nuclear Decline in Geopolitical Terms

Today, if China attempts to conquer Taiwan,the USA would be hard pressed to respond, in fact if military personnel who have threatened to quit rather than obey the mandate if demented geriatric presiden and Commander in Chief Joe Biden, carry out that threat it is doubtful that the US forces could defend their own bases in the area.

As for larger scale conflict, The Pentagon’s own wargames show the U.S. losing to China in a regional war over Taiwan. 

The Defense Department’s Deputy Chief of Staff for Strategy, Integration, and Requirements, Lt. General Sam Hinote, warned recently: “As Somebody who is cognizant of the evidence at all classification levels, cognizant of what’s going on in our exercises…I believe the light is blinking red…Why? Because it used to be that when we did future war games, we were having trouble when we set the war game 5, 10, 15 years out into the future…But what has changed since the last time we sat in this building two years ago, is that it’s not a future problem…It is a current problem…We are out of time.” 

Like the U.S. in 1962, China may already, dominate the nuclear balance with Russia not far behind. 

According to a Washington Times report in August 2021, U.S. STRATCOM Commander, Admiral Charles Richard has warned that China is building silos for “350-400 new long-range missiles” like the DF-41 ICBM, that carries 10 warheads. Consequently: “If 10 warheads are deployed on the DF-41s, China’s warhead level will increase to 4,000 warheads on the DF-41 alone.” 

4,000 DF-41 ICBM warheads alone would give China a 10-to-1 advantage over the United States’ 400 ICBM warheads, and nearly a 3-to-1 advantage over the 1,400 operationally deployed U.S. strategic nuclear weapons on all ICBMs, SLBMs, and bombers. 

China already has a nuclear first-strike capability against the 400 ICBM silos, 3 bomber bases, 2 SSBN ports, and C3I targets comprising the U.S. nuclear deterrent. China’s existing DF-41 ICBMs have enough warheads with yield/accuracy combinations capable of achieving 90% single-shot-kill-probability against the hardest U.S. targets.

To make matters worse, U.S. retaliatory capabilities against strategic targets in China—including ICBM silos, missile tunnels, mobile missiles, bomber and SSBN bases, C3I bunkers, and the 5,000 kilometers long “Underground Great Wall”—are grossly inadequate. 

China, Russia, North Korea: A Nuclear Axis

China’s push for nuclear supremacy probably accounts for Beijing's apparent abandonment of  its nuclear “No First Use” pledge. Earlier this year the Chinese government threatened a nuclear attack on Australia because the Australian government had signed an agreement with Britain and America to buy U.S. designed, British built nuclear powered, (not nuclear armed,) submarines as part of as US / UK / Australian / Japanese response to what is perceived as a growing military threat from China in South East Asia, The Pcific and The Indian Ocean.

In July, an “unofficial” (nothing in China is exempt from government influence,) website - Xigua Video - which is affiliated with the People’s Liberation Army threatened: 

—“Now the international situation has changed dramatically…In order to protect the peaceful rise of our country, it is necessary to make limited adjustments to our nuclear policy.” 

–“When we liberate Taiwan, if Japan dares to intervene by force, even if it deploys only one soldier, one plane and one ship..we will use nuclear bombs first. We will use nuclear bombs continuously until Japan declares unconditional surrender for the second time.” 

—“We’ll join force with Russia and North Korea [to] shoot together to hit the Japanese mainland thoroughly and in full depth.”

—“After defeating Japan, we must take more severe measures than in World War II to partition Japan…by dividing the four Japanese islands into four independent states…China and Russia should each formulate its own Peace Constitution, and each of the four countries should be placed under the administration of China and Russia, with China and Russia stationing troops.” 

Russia and North Korea have never denied that they would join with China in a nuclear war against the United States. The three are strategic partners. China and Russia have conducted major military exercises together, including at least one strategic forces exercise postulating a nuclear war with the U.S. over Taiwan. The position of Iran is less clear, though it is an ally of both China and Russia, but with Dementia Joe's recent abandonment of Afghanistan the Iranian leaders would need little persuasion to grant both China and Russia access via its territory to the Indian Ocean and the strategically vital waters of the Persian Gulf, thus encircling India, Pakistan, Myanmar, Malaysia, Thailand. And it is not clear which way Pakistan, a nuclear power in its own right and more closely allied to Iran than Britain and the west, would jump in the event of war

In 1962, during the Cuban missile crisis, the last time the world was so close to nuclear war, President Kennedy faced only the USSR, rather than a coalition of three and possibly more nuclear powers. The other major point of concern is that Joe Biden, even in his prime, was not one thousandth of the man  John F Kennedy was.


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Britain has “no God-given right” to rule the waves and we should stop “strutting our importance” House of Lords member,Sikh activist and former BBC journalist Lord Singh said in the House of Lords today.

The life peer said such an attitude belongs to the 19th century and only increases the risk of serious conflict in the present day. Money earmarked for military ships should instead be diverted to fund social care, the independent crossbench peer added.

He's talking bollocks of course, Britain never had "a God given right" to rule the waves, the case is we had better sailors, better ships and better guns (and more of all three) than anybody else. And right now with the Chinese dragon rampant in the far east, initially targeting harmless little Taiwan but possibly threatening our allies in Australia, India and Japan as well as other nations in that geopolitical arena, its no time to be diverting money from defence of our interests and into virtue signalling projects. Perhaps we should divert a few of the billions we are spending on useless vaccines that do not immunise people gainst illnesses that will never make the vast majority of us ill.

Globalism, the western version (all join hands and sing Kumbaya politics) was always a non starter. America wanted us all singing Kumbaya while waving The Stars and Stripes, China wanted a communist global hegemony, Iran wanted a Shi'ite Islamic global caliphate, Saudi Arabia wanted a Sunni Islamic global caliphate, Russia wanted to control the oil markets (which pissed off America, Iran and the Arabs, the World Economic Forum wanted a New Normal (i.e. global corporatocracy,) and the EU wanted a global European Union. They were all singing Kumbaya but to a different tune.

The Government dismissed Lord Singh’s remarks and insisted it has a duty to keep the nation safe and secure. Quite right, the world is becoming more unstable and dangerous and like our Viking and Celtic ancestors we must show we will defend it against our enemies to the last drop of blood. And only by showing we still have the best sailors, ships and weapons (even if we don't have more of them now,) will our country make others understand the last drop of blood will be their, not ours.

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Fully Vaxxed Are COVID ‘Super-Spreaders,’ Says Dr Malone Who Invented mRNA Gene Therapy Technique

Speaking to host Jesston Williams on the latest episode of “The Hidden Gateway” podcast, Dr. Robert Malone, who was a senior player in the project responsible for inventing the mRNA vaccine technique used in COVID vaccines, referred to two instances of people being “enticed” to take what he calls the “experimental” vaccine.

“There was a period where West Virginia was trying to get people to get vaccinated,” Malone said. “And so they had a shotgun lottery. And in Canada, there was a policy of offering free ice cream to children to get them to take the jab even without their parents’ approval. So those are just two particularly clear examples of unfair coercion … It’s not actually legal.”

Malone went on to compare the various ways people are being pressured by propaganda to accept the untested, experimental COVID vaccines to the medical experiments involving coercion and compulsion of victims conducted by Nazi Germany. “During the Second World War Jews and other ethnic groups were subjected to horrible experimental medical research,” Malone said. “And they justified it by saying it was for the common good.”

Adding that in the 1948 Geneva Convention on human rights, the democratic nations “agreed we weren’t going to do that anymore. Yet, from time to time we seem to forget, and of course, Tuskegee is one example, and frankly, this is another example.”

In an attempt to clear up misinformation coming from the medical establishment and downright lies coming from the political establishment and the media, Malone confirmed that fully vaccinated individuals can spread COVID. “The idea that if you have a workplace where everybody’s vaccinated, you’re not going to have virus spread is totally false. A total lie,” Malone said.

The vaccinated are actually the “super-spreaders” that everyone was told about in the beginning of the pandemic, the doctor argued.

He said:

“If you consider the scientific fact that vaccinated people have less symptoms than the unvaccinated, but can still easily spread disease, consider your fellow vaccinated worker, whose unvaccinated son brought the disease home and gave it to him … He might not have any symptoms … but he’ll definitely be producing the virus. And he’s going to say, hey, I can go to work today. But he’s going to be spreading the virus like crazy.”

Malone also commented on the disingenuous the idea of “the noble lie:”

“If the government isn’t going to disclose to you what the [vaccine] risks are, and they’re not going to disclose to you what’s really going on because they think that you can’t handle the news … this is what they call the noble lie.”

Malone denounced the “noble lie” as “paternalistic authoritarianism.” He said the idea of governance-by-lying goes back to Plato and Ancient Greek philosophy which argues that it’s “okay for politicians and people in authority positions to lie to the general public because they have special knowledge and ability to understand things … and the general public can’t cope with that level of information. And so it’s okay to lie to them.”

“I really disagree with this line of thinking,” Malone said. “Yet it has been public policy in the United States and worldwide in public health for a very long time.”

Boggart Blog agrees, in Athens at the time Plat was active only the elite were educated and from what we know appear to have ruled broadly in the public interest so there may have been some justification for the noble lie, in Britain and Europe in the medieval era only clergy and nobility were educated and they ruled in their own interests, so the noble lies was not noble but as tainted as any lie. And in the democratic nations of the 21st century the propaganda lies are driven by greed and lust for power and are in this case as in many others, infringements of civil liberties, violations of human rights and crimes against humanity

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