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Saturday, January 11, 2025

Soros, Not Musk, Interfering In Democracy Says Italy's Giorgia Meloni

While the German political establishment are working thelmselves into a frenzy over Elon Musk's support for populist party Alternatif fur Deutschland (AfD) in the upcoming general election which has been forced on a nation in the midst of multiple crises by the collapse of a ruling coalition when the minority FDP, a pro busines, classical liberal party could no longer support policies forced on the main party, the far left SDP by the loony left Greens, Italy's Prime Minister has kicked another hornets nest.

In Rome recently Italian Prime Minister Giorgia Meloni addressed accusations that Musk's comments via X on political matters in Europe amount to interference in national politics. Meloni said that Elon Musk’s political posts on X do not pose a threat to democracy; while Marxist oligarch George Soros, continuously interfers in the politics of other nations and has done so for decades.

The Germans are in a funk over Musk interviewing Alice Weidel of the AfD. There are constantly interviews with other party leaders, Merz (CDU), Söder (CSU), Scholz (SDP) and other pols and candidates with no fuss or blabber about threats to democracy. https://www.dw.com/en/german-institutions-depart-x-a-day-after-musks-weidel-talk/a-71266331

Meloni is right on target. The left wants a monopoly on media access and arrogates to themselves alone who to silence and who gets heard. There were several attempts by the coalition before its government collapsed, to have AfD banned from contesting elections by delaring them a threat to democracy. Thus the coalition parties were themselves behaving like the Nazis they falsely accuse the AfD of resembling.

That the MSM is happy to act as the establishment's propaganda arm and official censor is insufficient when alternatives like podcasts evade their control. The EU has promulgated the tools to deal with those who dare challenge the green, woke WEF orthodoxy. By challenging these laws made by unelected bureaucrats, Musk has them apoplectic as the centre - right advances in so many EU countries.

“I would also like to remind you of the German side’s interference in the Italian election campaign,” Meloni said, referring to previous German concerns about the right-wing position she represented.

Soros has long been a controversial figure due to his manipulation of stock and currency markets to create financial instability, his sponsorship of NGOs involved in trafficking illegal immigrants into Europe and his involvement in the politics of nations around the world through donations to far left politicians and parties.

Far-left billionaire George Soros has a legion of loyal lieutenants who’ve racked up over two dozen meetings with top officials at the White House since President Biden took office, The New York Post reports.

The progressive kingmaker’s unrivaled access into the Biden administration extends well beyond his 37-year-old son Alexander, who chairs the powerful, liberal grant-making network Open Society Foundations founded by his dad, and as The Post reported on Page 1 last week, has taken on the role of a de-facto White House “ambassador” by making at least 14 visits there.

At least four other past or present leaders at Open Society Foundation and migrartion support 'charity International Rescue (ludicrously given the same name as an orgnisation in Thunderbirds, 1960s Sci Fi puppet show on UK childrens TV have amassed a combined 33 private meetings and other confabs in less than two years, according to recently updated White House visitor logs.

However, few on the left-liberal spectrum ever criticized this interference, according to Italy’s leader.

“The problem is when wealthy people use their resources to finance parties, associations and political exponents all over the world to influence the political choices of nation states”, Meloni told reporters at an annual press conference.

“That’s not what Musk is doing,” she added.

“Elon Musk financed an election campaign in his country, by his candidate, in a system in which, by the way, I would point out that this is quite common,” Meloni said.

“But I am not aware of Elon Musk financing parties, associations or political exponents around the world. This, for example, is what George Soros does.”

“And yes, I consider that to be dangerous interference in the affairs of nation states and in their sovereignty,” she noted.

Meloni also named other wealthy people actively funding parties and NGOs around the world to influence local policies.

"This is not the first time that famous and wealthy people have expressed their opinions. I have seen many such cases, often against me, and no one was offended then..."

Musk, she said, is a very rich man who expresses his opinion and does not pose a threat to democracy.

“Is the problem that Elon Musk is influential and rich or that he is not left-wing?” asked Meloni.

She also noted that she and many others on the right are not financially dependent on Musk, unlike many on the left who are funded by Soros, or have been funded by him over the years.

Meloni denied ever taking any money from Musk, “unlike those who have taken it from Soros”.

In response to a journalist’s question, Meloni also spoke about Elon Musk’s open support for the right-wing Alternative for Germany (AfD) stressing that if anyone tried to influence the Italian elections, it was Germany, under the then Social Democratic-Liberal-Green government.

“I would like to remind you of the German side’s interference in the Italian election campaign,” Meloni said, referring to previous German concerns about the right-wing, Eurosceptic position she represented.

Soros has long been a controversial figure due to his outsized role in the politics of nations around the world, however, few on the left-liberal spectrum ever criticized this interference.

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Saturday, August 17, 2024

Ukraine's Pointless Incursion Into Russian Territory Only Blew Away Another Chance Of Peace

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The Zelensky fan club in the west proclimed the destruction of this bridge as the decisive action but within hours Russian military engineers had installed a pontoon bridge to reopen the route (Picture: Screenshot via GB News)

The Ukrainian incursion into the Russian province of Kursk was always the act of a bunch of lunatics, which is what this blog has always believed the Kiev regime are. So far Russia's response has been to draw a large group of well trained fighting men deep into Russian territory, while bombarding the atackers with heavy artillery fire and atacking the /ukrainian supply line / retreat route. The final outcome for the Ukies is inevitably even worse than commentators in western media are prepared to speculate.

What is more, rather than being a ploy to gain bargaining chips in any future peace negotations as is being claimed, the action, like the US / NATO intervention in the Turkish brokered peace talks in April 2022, has destroyed an oportunity to initiate negotiations for a settement.

Throughout this conflict, while western leaders have done all in their power to prolong the conflict, the Ukie leadership have displayed reptillian stupidity in matters of military and political strategy.

Over the last six months, in revenge for Ukrainian attacks inside Russia's borders and specifically on Russian energy infrastructure, especially oil refineries, Russian forces in Donbas have inflicted serious damage on Ukraine's electricity network. Nearly every power generation plant in Ukraine has been damaged. Half of Ukraine's total 18 Gigawatts of electricity generation capacity has been disabled. Without power and heating it looks like being a very difficult winter for many Ukrainians.

Recently there has been talk from both sides about stopping the destruction of the opponent's infrastructure. An agreement about it was in the making and was possible. But, as Washington Post reports, the Ukrainian attack on Kursk blew it apart:

Ukraine and Russia were set to send delegations to Doha this month to negotiate a landmark agreement halting strikes on energy and power infrastructure on both sides, diplomats and officials familiar with the discussions said, in what would have amounted to a partial cease-fire and offered a reprieve for both countries.
But the indirect talks, with the Qataris serving as mediators and meeting separately with the Ukrainian and Russian delegations, were derailed by Ukraine’s surprise incursion into Russia’s western Kursk region last week, according to the officials.
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The diplomat familiar with the talks said that Qatar has been discussing the arrangement for an energy strike moratorium with Kyiv and Moscow for the past two months. The official said the two sides agreed to a summit in Doha with just minor details left to be worked out.

“After Kursk, the Russians balked,” another person familiar with the talks said.

Instead the Ukie's senseless attack on Kursk which is nothing more than a typical Zelensky stunt, probably aimed at persuading his western pals that its worth spaffing $billions more on weapons, ammunition and cash aid, Ukraine could have had an agreement that would have saved the thousands of lives that will and have already been sacrificed in this act of madness, and make it possible for Ukraine's people to get through the winter without many blackouts and other interruptions. Zelensky and his bosses blew that chance for the sake of a stupid act of political theatre that never had a snowball in hell's chance of succeeding..

The morale boost for Ukrainian forces created by the attack on Kursk is already waning, front line troops are close to mutiny because they have been thrown into anotherr meat gridger situation. Russia has not pulled any of its troops involved in gaining more territory on the eastern front to defend Kursk. Instead reserves have been pulled from elsewhere. As there was never any hope of holding the territory they claim to have taken, the aims of the Kursk incursion is not happening and the stunt has failed.

Ukraine's attack was only made possible their by pulling troops for the eastern frontline. Moreover artillery supplies, which were already problematic,, the New York Times reports have become even scarcer:

Soldiers fighting in the Donetsk region said they had been buoyed by the incursion into Russia. But they also said it would use up weapons and ammunition that they crucially need. One commander stationed at a hot spot on the eastern front said his brigade had fewer than four mortar guns to defend its position, and could fire only 10 shells a day per mortar.

Each day the Ukraine is losing more ground in the east. Meanwhile its Kursk incursion has already stalled, the main force is pinned down by artillery and Ukrainian troops will face a deadly struggle to get back across the border.

What may happen next? Russia could hammer all of Ukraine obviously, but the stakes are too high for direct NATO confrontation. That is to say Russia will estimate that the potential losses are not worth what little might be gained, because it would then likely face a more powerfully armed front along with all the argument of Russian expansion into Europe.

If Russia tried to claim all of Ukraine it would remain just that, if it damaged the infrastructure more than necessary it would just be seen as brutal so Russia has taken a moderate stance based on understandable territorial claims, expecting the west to show reason and with Russia looking to reach an understanding or acceptance of that reality.

The Kremlin must have known the introduction of the conflict was obvious enough to give the west has motive for an ongoing hostility but seems to have underestimated how many Ukrainian lives Washington and NATO were prepared to sacriice in the hop of achieving regime change in Moscow.

From a western point of view incursion into Russia could only be meant to insult Russia and tarnish the reputation of Putin and maybe to provoke a response that would provide justification for direct military involvement. As things stand, until the west decides to accept a peace, it must continue to support its proxy in conflict. After witnessing the length of the cold war, then this new contest could become a feature for half a century or more. I think Russia does not expect reason and logic to feature in any response from the west and so will simply hold its ground and shrug the rest off.

The peace is a trade off in recognitions, which is one reason some in the west have dificulty. For example, to accept the current border would mean some western powers are going to come away looking like responsible for the conflict - because that could have been achieved before by guaranteeing Ukrainian neutrality before the Russian invasion.

Equally there is the 'rules based order' which the west interprets as being respecting national borders and sovereignty, but including allowable pre-emptive criteria for trespass of its own choosing - so making a joke of the concept, a joke that has so far cost millions of lives and caused much misery. At least Putin's transgression was based on visible defense of a population under attack, on territory, and with population, considered a traditional and cohesive part of Russia wheras the west's military interventions have been motivated by seeking economic or strategic advantage.

So it just goes on.

No point saying what Putin or Russia should do, instead we should be saying what the west should do now. The answer is obvious enough - accept the peace deal brokered by the Qataris and take whatever steps are needed to stop the pointless slaughter of innocent men and women on both sides.