Excluded From US / Russia Peace Talks, European Leaders Decide To Hold Their Own Summit

 

Snubbed By Trump and Putin, European Leaders(!) To Hold Their Own Summit On Ukraine

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British Prime Minister Keir Starmer and French President Emmanuel Macron in January

Following the Munich security summit European leaders will gather next week for an emergency summit on the war in Ukraine in response to concerns the US and Russia are moving ahead with  peace talks that will exclude Europe. Senior figures in the Trump2 administration are due to meet Russian and Ukrainian negotiators in Saudi Arabia in the coming days, US officials say.

Sir Keir Starmer, never one to turn down a freebie, will attend the five star jolly meting in Paris, and described it as it was a "once-in-a-generation moment for our national security" which made clear Europe must take a greater role in Nato.

The move comes after Donald Trump's special envoy to Ukraine said European leaders would be consulted but not take part in any talks between US and Russia over ending the war. The toxic dwarf of Kiev was mot mentioned.

In remarks likely to be cause concern in Ukraine and among European allies, special envoy Keith Kellogg said previous negotiations had failed because too many parties had been involved.

"It may be like chalk on the blackboard, it may grate a little bit, but I am telling you something that is really quite honest," he said on Saturday.

SStarmer is understood to see his role as bringing US and Europe together to ensure a united approach to peace in Ukraine. Considering his success in uniting Britons in hatred of his government it is hard to see him achieving anything other than making the situation worse although in view of the constant stream of propaganda, from London,Paris and Brussels claiming that Ukraine is still winning it is hard to see how even somebody of SStarmers innate ineptiyude could make things worse.

The UK prime minister will discuss the views of European leaders when he visits US President Trump at the White House at the end of this month. A further meeting of European leaders together with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky is expected to take place after Sir Keir returns from Washington.

Sir Keir said the UK would "work to ensure we keep the US and Europe together", adding the two could not "allow any divisions in the alliance to distract" from "external enemies".

Polish foreign minister Radoslaw Sikorski said Emmanuel Macron had called the summit of European leaders, although has not yet been announced by the French president which makes one wonder if any European leaders actually know what they are doing.

Sikorski said: "President Trump has a method of operating, which the Russians call reconnaissance through battle. You push and you see what happens, and then you change your position, legitimate tactics. And we need to respond.

Earlier on Saturday, Zelensky called for the creation of an "army of Europe" amid rising concern the US may no longer come to the continent's aid. Speaking at the Munich Security Conference, he said US Vice-President JD Vance's speech at the event had made it clear that the old relationship between Europe and America was "ending" and the continent "needs to adjust to that".

But Zelensky also said Ukraine would "never accept deals made behind our backs without our involvement" after Trump and Russian President Vladimir Putin agreed to start peace talks.

The US president earlier this week had a lengthy conversation with the Vladimir Putin following which he announced that negotiations to stop the "ridiculous war" in Ukraine would begin "immediately". Trump then "informed" Zelensky of his plan.

On Saturday, US Secretary of State Marco Rubio also held a phone call with Russia's foreign minister "building on" the 12 February call between Trump and Putin. Trump's call with the Russian president earlier this week broke nearly three years of silence between Washington and Moscow.

US Representative Michael McCaul , chairman of the House Foreign Affairs Committee, told Reuters news agency. he understood Zelensky had been invited to take part in the Saudi talks, which were aimed at arranging a meeting with Trump, Putin and the Ukrainian president "to finally bring peace and end this conflict".

A day earlier, Vance had launched a scalding attack on European democracies, saying the greatest threat facing the continent was not from Russia and China, but "from within". In a speech at the Munich Security Conference, he repeated the Trump administration's line that Europe must "step up in a big way to provide for its own defence".

UK Foreign Secretary David Lammy has said the UK and EU countries must spend more on defence, with Europe facing an "existential question" even in the event of a negotiated peace in Ukraine.

Lammy told the Munich Security Conference on Saturday "Putin will not go away", and that, while it was positive 23 Nato countries were now spending at least 2% of their GDP on defence, "we all know we have to go upward".

 

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Trump posted on Truth Social that he had a “lengthy and highly productive phone call” with Putin. It is the first publicly disclosed phone call between the two men since Trump took office. Trump said they discussed Ukraine, the Middle East, energy, artificial intelligence, the dollar and other topics.

“But first, as we both agreed, we want to stop the millions of deaths taking place in the War with Russia/Ukraine,” Trump wrote. “President Putin even used my very strong Campaign motto of, ‘COMMON SENSE.’ We both believe very strongly in it. We agreed to work together, very closely, including visiting each other’s Nations.”

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